If you have residencia and live here do you a pay non resident taxes??

[Warriors]

May seem like a silly question but we got our residencia in February so what tax to we pay?? Do we still do the non residents tax on the house??

[Johnrgby]

Firstly no question is a silly question, if you live here no, but you will possibly become liable for Spanish Income tax, that, of course, depends upon your income.

[Warriors]

Firstly no question is a silly question, if you live here no, but you will possibly become liable for Spanish Income tax, that, of course, depends upon your income.

Thanks John,  yes we live here and I have a part time job with contract so I suppose we now have to do another form of tax return 😕

[Spitfire58]

I was told by someone recently that having “Residencia” was effectively just another form of Spanish paperwork. It has no effect or connection with state services/income tax etc in the U.K. also Residencia means you can change to a residents bank account (not the same kind of fees as non residents). The primary reason seemed to be that being recorded as a full time resident made you eligible for Spanish health care etc. Not sure how others will respond to this, just my info from what I was told.
My other thought on this is that if you have a contract you have no choice but to register for Spanish income tax.

[FVmouse]

If you are a Resident then you pay all taxes as a Resident.

If you are a non-Resident you pay all taxes as a non-Resident.

If you pay all your taxes as a Resident then basically you are a Resident.

Only Residents (aka full taxpayers) are entitled to those (state and other) benefits which apply only to Residents (aka full taxpayers). Common sense really. Follow the Money ....

Think that covers it.

The ONLY question to ask is “Are you a Resident ?” and everything else follows from the above. Based on you saying you live on the Island then you should be a Resident.

Don’t confuse being a Resident (aka full taxpayer) with applying to go on the Registro (often wrongly called Residencia). The former is essentially part way to becoming Spanish, the latter is a piece of paper.

[Jason W]

It is possible to be “resident” for tax purposes in more than one country. Tax treaties exist to then determine depending on the income source what you pay and where. Forums are great but better to take professional advice.

[Thorgal]

Hi everybody,

I am new here.  Sorry for my incredulity/. Plenty of interesting threads  I still had the time to read.  I have a question : in relation with those conversations, whart does mean "empatronado" ? I don't really understand owning/renting a dwelling. When are you considered as a resident/ etc etc  

Thanks in advance for your explanations
And Happy New Yea to all of you !!!

[Johnrgby]

 "empatronado" 

Hi Thorgal, welcome to the forum, and there is no need to apologise for asking a question "empatronado"  is not a word I recognise, if you mean " Empadron " that simply means registered, which you should do at the Townhall, that enables the ayumento in which you live to receive more Money from the Island  Government, the more residents the more they receive as it is correctly perceived it costs more to provide services for them.
We are resident and pay owners tax, the definition of living here is somewhat cloudy,but someone will come on and define it for you.
Once again welcome and A Happy New Year to you.

[Will]

Actually one whole section of the tax treaty does nothing but determine which country you're tax resident of. You are either resident of one or the other.


The fact you have to pay some taxes in a different country doesn't mean you're tax resident in that country. The whole point of non resident taxes is they're for non residents.