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Antigen test approved now?!
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Canarian Weekly have this afternoon published an announcement that the president, Ángel Victor Torres, has signed an official BOE allowing the use of the antigen test for inbound travellers rather than just the PCR, as of Thursday 10 Decemberhttps://www.canarianweekly.com/posts/can...morrow#ath

Canarian Weekly is regarded as something of a ‘sensationalist’ news source, I know, but it does seem to have some substance in this case. It’s possible the national government can act against a unilateral decision......?!
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It looks like it is true.

The Government of the Canary Islands, after approving the Governing Council last Thursday the proposal of the Ministry of Health, will allow the use of antigen tests for the sanitary control of international travelers upon arrival in the Archipelago, by means of a decree of the president, Ángel Víctor Torres, which will come into effect this Thursday, after its publication this Wednesday in the Official Gazette of the Canary Islands.

For access to the Archipelago from abroad, PCR (RT-PCR) and rapid antigen detection tests are admitted as diagnostic tests for active SARS-COV-2 infection according to their corresponding approval.

The decree, which establishes the perimeter closure of the autonomous community, does not make it impossible for travelers to access it, but rather regulates a secure entrance with systems that are accessible and affordable.

This decree is based on the powers derived from the state of Aalarma - whose delegated competent authority is the regional president -; in the condition of Ultraperipheral Region (RUP) that the Canary Islands have within the European Union; the Statute of Autonomy; the indications of the Public Health and microbiology technicians; and the accumulated experience with the tourist law decree that establishes the obligation to present an antigen test certificate or PCR with a negative result in regulated accommodation establishments in the Canary Islands.

In this sense, the pioneering system promoted by the Government of the Canary Islands has proven to be reliable, since during the last five weeks, in which around 250,000 travelers have arrived in the Islands, with very few cases of tourists who tested positive.

The Government of the Canary Islands maintains negotiations within the framework of open understanding with the Ministry of Health to harmonize the regional standard with the national one.

In addition, during this day progress continues in the regulations that will establish the controls of national travelers - in agreement with the Government of the Balearic Islands, - as well as of Canarian residents in peninsular territory who plan to return to the Canary Islands, especially on Christmas dates. 

https://www.eldiariodecanarias.com/noticia/canarias-permitirá-el-test-de-antígenos-para-los-viajeros-internacionales
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With the new rules - as far as I can see, it's possible to arrive,  declare self-isolation, then go to somewhere like clinicascenmed and get an antigen test.  I suspect this will be a lot cheaper than the UK prices but I don't want to risk anything either!  Any thoughts?
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(10-12-2020, 02:05 PM)mbridgett Wrote: With the new rules - as far as I can see, it's possible to arrive,  declare self-isolation, then go to somewhere like clinicascenmed and get an antigen test.  I suspect this will be a lot cheaper than the UK prices but I don't want to risk anything either!  Any thoughts?

One thought I have is what the airline may require to see to allow you board your flight. I'd be very interested in the practices in this regard!
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Am i reading this correct as though now back to the original idea of presenting the evidence in tourist accommodation only? 

accumulated experience with the tourist law decree that establishes the obligation to present an antigen test certificate or PCR with a negative result in regulated accommodation establishments in the Canary Islands.
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(10-12-2020, 02:05 PM)mbridgett Wrote: With the new rules - as far as I can see, it's possible to arrive,  declare self-isolation, then go to somewhere like clinicascenmed and get an antigen test.  I suspect this will be a lot cheaper than the UK prices but I don't want to risk anything either!  Any thoughts?

Unfortunately that is not correct and could lead to a large fine.

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To everyone contemplating travelling to The Canaries:

I can do no better than refer all to read Janet Anscombe's 'In Tenerife' . 
Janet and her colleagues read Spanish/or are Spanish, consult with the local authorities and the British Consul. The site is always up to date with the situation and written in plain English.

Rather than try to reproduce the info here I would recommend anyone contemplating travel to read everything Janet has published. It's a shame that people's holiday hopes may be dashed but the pandemic has not gone away - please don't try to get around the rules, they are there for a reason, whether we necessarily agree with them or understand them.
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I understand the antigen test is not acceptable - I’ve tried to reproduce an extract from an email just received - as it states check official sources.

Peeps [img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/315d0cfc-1b24-4d31-9266-ee610a74f18e[/img][img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/315d0cfc-1b24-4d31-9266-ee610a74f18e[/img],
[img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/cf514c78-5502-417d-a408-da94019ba25b[/img]Now for a serious post [img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/cf514c78-5502-417d-a408-da94019ba25b[/img]
[img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/315d0cfc-1b24-4d31-9266-ee610a74f18e[/img]As you know, I had decided not to post about the new laws on COVID tests until I got the full facts as I always do with most of my factual posts as some of you may not realise that not one but two decree laws came out in the space of two days and are now in play and this has caused major confusion over the past couple of days but we now know the facts.
[img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/cf514c78-5502-417d-a408-da94019ba25b[/img]PLEASE EVERYONE STICK WITH PCR TESTS [img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/cf514c78-5502-417d-a408-da94019ba25b[/img]Antigen tests may have been approved by the Canary Islands but they are still not approved by Mainland Spain and are still not valid for travel into the Spanish territories including all islands [img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/4e9e16d4-78e4-4009-809d-e0d3cad9f06e[/img]
After seeing hundreds of incorrect posts, comments, discussions and debates for the past three days regarding the antigen tests being valid to fly into the Canary Islands territory on most of the groups on Fuerteventura, I can now confirm that this is INCORRECT. I posted last night on my own profile my exact findings after having the information verified by expert bodies and the UK government website has now been updated which now makes it official. (Picture below). I am afraid the RT-PCR test is the ONLY TEST still valid for travel with exception of a new test called a TMA molecular test which is not available yet in UK nor in the Canary Islands for that matter.
[img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/dd13141b-3ce3-4d5f-a8b6-aae78220c03e[/img]Whether you want to bury your head in the sand and go ahead and get an antigen test, please know that you will be at risk of a fine of up to €6,000 if you arrive with the incorrect certificate should you be randomly selected for scrutiny on arrival at Fuerteventura airport. I can confirm that the rules HAVE NOT CHANGED apart from two small technicalities. Read on..... apologies for long post. It is worth reading it to the end in order for you to have the full facts at hand.
Read more about it below as to why this is happening [img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/3278f953-f297-400f-bc5c-d5ac4f31d273[/img]
After proof reading the two decrees which came out on the same day within a few hours of each other on Thursday 09/12/2020 (Canarian BoC first then the Central Spanish BoE a few hours later), those of you who may have familiarised yourselves with the way the decrees are made know how complex they can be to understand and interpret the correct way. I noticed straight away that there were ambiguities between the two decrees and realised that the Spanish decree superseded the Canarian one but still had to consult the matter with more experienced people in order to get the proper verification done. And I am afraid it’s not good news...
So in summary regarding valid COVID tests: nothing has changed!!! You still need a PCR test to fly into the Spanish territory including the islands. Please note that the antigen tests are still required to enter licensed tourist accommodation but they are definitely not valid for travel to Spain. (Also take note that passengers coming from Ireland no longer need any test to fly here but they still have to have an rapid antigen test to get into licensed establishments since 30/11/2020)
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR YOU??
[img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/095ccc97-91b4-4c7a-b264-955c75a3ca86[/img]In summary, only two things have truly changed in fact:
* ONLY children age 6 and over NOW require a test
* Certificates are now accepted in Spanish, English, French and German
* You now need to arrive not only with the QR code, your PCR negative test certificate but you now also need to fill in a personal waiver declaration before your arrival in Spain (copies of declaration attached - if you wish to download this document in pdf form, I will be posting it in the Topics section called Documents) http://sede.gobcan.es/boc/boc-a-2020-254-4831.pdf
What did not change:
* To enter the Canaries:
YOU WILL STILL NEED A PCR NEGATIVE TEST certificate as per the Spanish BoE decree law dated 10/12/2020 https://www.boe.es/.../2020/12/10/pdfs/BOE-A-2020-15878.pdf
* To enter licensed tourist accommodation:
You will still need either an antigen test or a PCR negative test certificate as per Canarian BoC decree law dated 09/12/2020 http://sede.gobcan.es/boc/boc-a-2020-252-4794.pdf
[img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/55e700a8-e880-4554-8288-da34ffd725c4[/img]WHY IS THAT?? It’s basically because Madrid have again disallowed the antigen tests as being valid for travel for the whole of the Spanish territory including the islands in their latest decree law which came out a few hours after the Canarian decree. We are truly being treated like puppets by two presidents playing tit for tat like little kids in a daycare playground [img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/350019c4-13c6-48f9-9a90-5007f7e3db92[/img]So when one approves something without authorisation from mainland government, the latter hits backs with a law to stop it. It’s as simple as that just like in November when the Canarian government launched a new decree law on antigen testing being introduced for tourist accommodation on 13th November, mainland Spain hit back with a new decree law to introduce PCR tests for all international travellers coming from high risk countries as from 23rd November such as the UK basing their criteria on the ECDC website here https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea. Any countries any red are high risk countries.
A FRIENDLY WORD OF WARNING:
[img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/cf514c78-5502-417d-a408-da94019ba25b[/img]BEWARE.... TUI and EasyJet alike have already confirmed that they will accept the antigen test certificates as fit to fly (as they are accepted by other countries) but even if the airline lets you board with that certificate, you can still face a fine up to €6,000 if you arrive without the right test certificate approved by mainland government if you are randomly selected by the airport authorities on landing in the Canaries 
[img=16x16]blob:https://fuerteventura.click/e2d70365-b036-4ab5-8142-6f71dcd9cc0f[/img]Below is the Translation of the Spanish decree law BoE dated 10/12/2020 (picture of relevant page attached)
First. Modalities for Active Infection Diagnostic Evidence for SARS-CoV-2 admitted under paragraph 4 and final subparagraph of paragraph 6 of the resolution of 11 November 2020 of the Directorate-General for Public Health.
These are set out as admitted modalities for the Active Infection Diagnostic Evidence for SARS-CoV-2, in relation to paragraph 4 and the third subparagraph of paragraph 6 of the resolution of 11 November 2020 of the Directorate-General for Public Health concerning health checks to be carried out at the entry points of Spain, the PCR test (RT-PCR), the TMA and other tests based on equivalent molecular techniques. [this means RNA molecular detection techniques not yet available in the UK]
Second. Derogation from health control concerning the conduct of active infection diagnostic tests for SARS-CoV-2.
Persons under six years of age shall not be required to provide a certificate provided for in paragraph 4 of the Resolution of 11 November 2020 of the Directorate-General for Public Health, the negative result obtained in any of the modalities of the Diagnostic Evidence of Active Infection for SARS-CoV-2 referred to in the preceding paragraph.
The tests referred to in the first and third subparagraph of paragraph 6 of the resolution of 11 November 2020 of the Directorate-General for Public Health shall also not be required for persons under six years of age.
Third. Languages admitted for the performance report for the Active Infection Diagnostic Evidence for SARS-CoV-2.
It is stated that the certificate of the Diagnostic Evidence of Active Infection referred to in paragraph 4 of the Resolution of 11 November 2020 of the Directorate-General for Public Health should be drawn up in English, English, French or German. If it is not possible to obtain it in these languages, the accreditation document must be accompanied by an official translation into Spanish by an official body.”
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(12-12-2020, 05:56 PM)Jason W Wrote: You now need to arrive not only with the QR code, your PCR negative test certificate but you now also need to fill in a personal waiver declaration before your arrival in Spain (copies of declaration attached - if you wish to download this document in pdf form, I will be posting it in the Topics section called Documents) http://sede.gobcan.es/boc/boc-a-2020-254-4831.pdf

Crumbs. What a ridiculous set up, with the two governments playing at who is king of the mountain, and as usual the poor old traveller caught in the middle...!

Regards the new extra form, it doesn't seem like a "waiver" so far as I can tell, more like an extra form with similar information to the one that generates the QR code, except there's an additional section about the tests. The link above translates to this:

Quote:First.- On March 11, 2020, the World Health Organization raised the situation caused by COVID-19 from a public health emergency to an international pandemic, a situation that continues today.

Second.- Faced with very worrying levels of the main epidemiological and health care indicators, the Council of Ministers approved Royal Decree 926/2020, of October 25, which declares the state of alarm to contain the spread of infections caused by the SARS-CoV-2, establishing in the entire national territory, including the Canary Islands, measures of social distancing and restriction of mobility, being extended -until May 9, 2021- and modified by Royal Decree 956/2020, of November 3 .

In the aforementioned Royal Decree 926/2020, different non-pharmacological public health measures are established to control transmission that make it possible to reduce current incidents, reverse the upward trend and avoid reaching the level of overload that the health system experienced during the first wave of the pandemic. Among these measures is the possibility of limiting mobility and entry and exit from the territories of the autonomous communities and cities with a Statute of Autonomy, as well as from geographically inferior territorial areas.

Third.- In the Autonomous Community of the Canary Islands, for these purposes, Decree 87/2020, of December 9, fell from the President, which establishes the perimeter closure of the Autonomous Community of the Canary Islands, in application of Royal Decree 926 / 2020, of October 25, by which the state of alarm is declared, to contain the spread of infections caused by SARS-COV-2 (BOC No. 252, of 12.9.2020), which restricts the entry of people in the territory of the Autonomous Community of the Canary Islands except for those displacements, adequately justified, that occur for any of the reasons established therein. However, it also provides that said entry restriction will not be applicable to those passengers who undergo a health check upon entry into the Autonomous Community.

Fourth.- The health control at entry, established in the third section of the resolution of the aforementioned Decree 87/2020, of December 9, provides that people who enter the territory of the Autonomous Community of the Canary Islands, by air or sea , will undergo a sanitary control at the entrance consisting of the signing of a responsible statement, a symptom control and a Diagnostic Test for Active Infection and / or isolation.

Regarding the responsible declaration, it provides that it will consist of the subscription by the passengers of a responsible declaration document, containing the personal data, residence data or location in the territory of the Autonomous Community of the Canary Islands, contact, the motivation for the trip , and the option of diagnostic or isolation test to which it is subjected, ordering its approval by order of the health minister and must be available to passengers on the website of the Government of the Canary Islands. It adds that it will be provided, collected and stored for three months by the airlines and maritime companies, which must send it daily electronically to the Canary Islands Health Service at the address established for that purpose.In the event that the passenger does not subscribe to the form indicated above, the airline or shipping company will send the corresponding notice to the Canary Islands health authorities prior to the arrival of the aircraft or ship to the territory of the Canary Islands.

Fifth.- In accordance with the powers attributed by article 44 of Law 11/1994, of July 26, on Sanitary Planning of the Canary Islands and in execution of what is ordered by the third section, point two of the resolution of Decree 87 / 2020, of December 9, of the President, which establishes the perimeter closure of the Autonomous Community of the Canary Islands, in application of Royal Decree 926/2020, of October 25, by which the state of alarm is declared, to contain the spread of infections caused by SARS-COV-2.

In view of the foregoing,

RESOLVED:

First.- The standard model of declaration responsible for the sanitary control of entry into the Canary Islands for the purposes of restrictions on the mobility of people for the control of COVID-19, which appears in the annex to this Resolution, is approved.

Second.- Said standardized model will be available to passengers on the website of the Government of the Canary Islands https://www.gobiernodecanarias.org/princ...ronavirus/.

Likewise, it must be provided to passengers by the companies that own the airlines and maritime lines.

Third.- Once completed by the passenger, it will be delivered to the airlines and maritime companies at the time of boarding.

Fourth.- The owner companies of the airlines and maritime lines will store the responsible declarations of the passengers on board for three months, having to send them daily electronically to the Canary Islands Health Service at the following email address: citravelhealth@gobiernodecanarias.org.

Fifth.- In the event that the passenger does not subscribe to the standard model indicated above, the airline or shipping company will send the corresponding notice to the health authorities of the Canary Islands prior to the arrival of the aircraft or ship to the territory of the Canary Islands. to the following electronic address: no_form@gobiernodecanarias.org.

The notice sent must contain the following information: personal data of the passenger, identification, ID, passport or personal identifier, air or maritime company, flight number / sea trip and destination island. Likewise, if the data is available, it will also contain the passenger's telephone number and email address.

Sixth.- This Order will be published in the Official Gazette of the Canary Islands.

Against this order, which exhausts administrative proceedings, a contentious-administrative appeal may be filed before the corresponding Contentious-Administrative Court, within a period of two months from the day following its publication, without prejudice to any another that could get in the way.

In the Canary Islands, on December 10, 2020.

THE COUNSELOR

OF HEALTH,

Blas Gabriel Trujillo Oramas.

And the Annex declaration I'm trying to attach images of. 

You'll notice antigen/rapid tests are explicitly mentioned as being acceptable— and also suggests you can also choose 14 day isolation, testing on arrival, or 72h isolation followed by a negative test! Of course, the Spanish govt. have already made the antigen part no longer applicable, and the rest has never been mentioned anywhere else...? 

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I'm not expecting any real clarity on this soon. That said, if the Canarian Government are trying to push through rapid testing as permitted, I very strongly doubt they would want to apply the Spanish law and fine someone for showing up with one. 

Would I would not gamble €6k on it, though? Probably not.


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Whilst the Antigen tests may have been approved for entry into the Canaries but the Spanish Government, I have been reading that some airlines are not accepting them for boarding planes from the UK???  Only acepting the PCR tests.  Any more info on this?
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(13-12-2020, 10:00 AM)Emmi Smith Wrote: Whilst the Antigen tests may have been approved for entry into the Canaries but the Spanish Government, I have been reading that some airlines are not accepting them for boarding planes from the UK???  Only acepting the PCR tests.  Any more info on this?

I would try and stick with PCR if at all possible, Emmi. It looks like the local and Spanish governments are getting in a silly slapfight over this, and it's impossible to know what will or won't be accepted on any given day. 

The airlines will be in a similar state of confusion to ourselves, and will usually opt for the action that will leave the least liability. Even if the local gov here are prepared to accept you, it wouldn't surprise if the airlines aren't prepared to take the risk of pax getting turned back and them being held responsible for ferrying them without the "correct" test. 

The problem with any information right now is that it's subject to change, seemingly within a couple of hours. Best advice is to take the damn PCR test according to the guidelines with the understanding that you could be wasting your effort and Money. But better that than get turned away at the boarding gate in England— or worse, on arrival here.
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