Passport Control

[DavidP]

Sadly we had to go to that cold place called England.
At border control people in front of us with no TIEs had their passports stamped.
Mine was not.
My wife Anne's  was scrutinised intensely as she had an in and out for a 5 day visit pre Christmas. But then was given her passport and TIE back with her passport unstamped.
As I was talking to Tom:- with the Info on the locator forms and statements on your tax form "they" have got all the information they need any way.
PS I am freezing 7 degrees and raining I will never moan about a Calima again.

[TamaraEnLaPlaya]

updated info from Gov.uk re 'to stamp or not to stamp'!

Rules for UK nationals when entering or leaving the Schengen area Schengen rules Beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement whose host State is an EU Member State other than Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus or Ireland (for the purposes of this guidance, those 22 Member States are called Schengen Member States and – together with Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and Liechtenstein – they form the Schengen area) are in principle not subject to the stamping obligation when entering or leaving the Schengen area. Beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement whose host State is Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus or Ireland are subject to the stamping obligation when entering or leaving the Schengen area. EU law does not prevent border guards from stamping upon entry to and exit from the Schengen area of travel documents of United Kingdom nationals who are beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement who are in possession of a valid residence permit issued by a Schengen Member State. The same applies to their family members in the same situation. The Commission considers that there is little practical use in stamping passports of Withdrawal Agreement beneficiaries. Stamping a passport serves to establish whether a non–EU national respected the authorised length of a short stay within the Schengen area, but beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement in a Schengen Member State are not required to leave the Schengen area as they legally reside in one of the Schengen Member State. The usual limitation of a stay of 90 days in a 180 days’ period in the Schengen area does not apply to them, irrespective of whether their passport has been stamped or not. However, they have no right to stay in a Schengen Member State other than that of their residence for more than 90 days in a 180 days’ period. The Commission recommends – notably as regards beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement – that Member State border guards refrain from stamping. In any case, should stamping nevertheless take place, such stamp cannot affect the length of the authorised long-term stay. Residence documents issued under the Withdrawal Agreement Beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement can use their residence documents issued under the Withdrawal Agreement as well as other means of evidence (see next section) at the border to prove their residence status and connected rights, such as not being subject to the maximum duration of stay of up to 90 days in a 180 days’ period in their host State. The Commission recommends that all beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement obtain the appropriate residence document under the Withdrawal Agreement in their Member State of residence and to proactively present it to border guards when crossing a Schengen external border. Other documents that can be used when entering or leaving the Schengen area Withdrawal Agreement beneficiaries who reside in host Member States with declaratory schemes can use residence documents issued under the EU Free Movement Directive before the end of the transition period as proof of their Withdrawal Agreement beneficiary status, provided that there is no indication that they no longer reside in the host Member State. They can use other documents that credibly prove that their holders exercised the right to move and reside freely in the host Member State before the end of the transition period and continue to reside there. Documents indicating the address of the person can show continued residence after the end of the transition period. Border guards may ask questions about the domicile in order to establish the residence status and connected rights of the traveller. Withdrawal Agreement beneficiaries who reside in host Member States with constitutive schemes can use their certificate of application issued under Article 18(1)(b) of the Withdrawal Agreement to prove their residence status and connected rights as long as they have not obtained a final decision on their application

[Haribo]

A lot of words there but as I go back and forth being British it doesn’t help as you can’t do anything if no border people are on duty as was when we left on Monday, last visit they were there both incoming and outgoing. My passport reads as if I’m still there I just hope I have no problem when I go to Norway soon.

[TamaraEnLaPlaya]

That is awkward Haribo! I think I'd keep copies of your flight info, for leaving FV, with you when travelling for at least a year!

[DavidP]

I have 2 inward stamps No outward.
Anne has 3 inwards and 1 outward

Looking at the approach to the new passport machinery they appeared to have notices ready to go up that said UK and Schengen passports or DNIEs.

[Mattradamus]

Hi folks,

I am travelling to FV tomorrow from Gatwick on an Irish passport, my girlfriend will be travelling on a UK passport. 

Is it possible for her to come into the EU passport queue with me or must she queue in the non EU one?  This is assuming that there are actually 2 separate queues?

Thanks in advance!

Matt

[Cotillo_Tom]

All flights from the UK come into Gates 1, 2, 3 or 4, all of which feed a UK only passport control desk.  The same applies on outbound flights to the UK. 

The difference is, your passport (being from a fellow EU country) will not be stamped, but her passport (being a UK or non-EU passport) will be stamped on entry and exit.

Safe flight!

[DavidP]

We have just come in on a holiday package flight with Jet 2.
We all came through the all passport section presented our TIEs and were waved through without our passports being stamped.
All holiday makers passports were being stamped as normal.