01-02-2019, 12:18 AM
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Volcanic activity in Canary Islands 2019
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01-02-2019, 12:18 AM
Welcome Jand - thanks for joining us.
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01-02-2019, 08:25 AM
Morning jand
And welcome, what took you so long??
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01-02-2019, 08:33 AM
Morning John
At my time of life not being computer savvy and just noticing I had 2 unread messages from last year in my inbox.
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01-02-2019, 08:58 AM
This is an article from May 2015 and IMO it is still happening now.
Translated. "The deputy José Segura believes that the IGN has committed "irresponsibility" "A public body that we pay all Spaniards can not hide data", criticizes D. Millet 11.05.2015 | 14:01 Jose Segura, national deputy for Tenerife of the PSOE, accused yesterday the managers of the National Geographic Institute of "acting with irresponsibility" in the volcanic monitoring of the Islands. "Hide data, no matter how insignificant they seem-that in science there is no insignificant or irrelevant information-it is as if you have a health problem, they give you a first diagnosis, you want to contrast it with other experts and that first doctor does not provide any So it will be impossible for others to give an opinion on the same problem, "he said, adding:" It is incomprehensible, especially when it is a public Institute that we pay all Spaniards and all Canaries. " "In what norm is it said that earthquakes should not be provided when they are below a certain magnitude ?, as the IGN has claimed," the socialist politician asked, who demanded "maximum transparency" from the national body because "what is in game is the security of all the islanders and that is sacred. " He added that the surveillance of a possible eruption is above all well above "the scientific lobbies that comfortably handle large amounts of public Money". Segura recalled all the obstacles that the competent national organisms put him in the matter when, as president of the Cabildo (1983-1987), he demanded more means for the volcanic monitoring of the Canaries. "The only thing I got was a small informative sample where today is the Museum of Science and Man of Santa Cruz." The deputy asked for "a greater weight" of the Canarian research centers in control, especially thanks to their evolution in recent years and the importance they have acquired even at the international level. He also praised the role played by the Cabildo de Tenerife, which he described as the administration that "has been most concerned" about this issue "even with limited powers", while on the other side it placed the Government of the Canary Islands: " What has the Canarian Government done? Absolutely nothing, they have not even claimed the competences that correspond to them, their laziness in this matter has been lamentable. " https://www.laopinion.es/sociedad/2015/0...aDxXsPFslY
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Translated. Adrián Martel Suárez Diana Anjana fully agree, more education in classrooms on volcanology, more information to know emergency plans. It should be done regularly for the population to know how to act on a real stage 1 de Febrero de 2019 a las 00:13 hora peninsular, aun sigue sin aparecer los datos del día 23. Esto es o no una ocultación de información. Adrián Martel Suárez Day 1 February 2019 at 00:13 Peninsular time, the data of the day 23. is still without appearing. This is or not an concealment of information.Hide or report this https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...e=5CED73B3" />
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01-02-2019, 09:21 AM
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Another comment.
"Como veo que hay que trabajar, SEÑORES DEL IGN CANARIAS se han producido muchos sismos microsismos movimientos muy importantes en el caso de que se produzca un proceso que vaya más en aumento la cosa Hoy s3 han producido movimientos en Adeje de 2.3 y otro en frontera el Hierro,hac3 una semana se reunión el comité científico PEVOLCA, ¿para que? Para tomar café con donuts, por que no hay nada claro! Pero no hablasteis de vilaflor y la de centenares de movimientos tantos sentido como no por la población,sólo hablasteis del evento de 4.4 que s3 produjo a las 6 de la mañana entre Tenerife y gran Canaria pero de VILAFLOR supongo que estáis ocupados haciendo videoclips dejando caer cosas como que el Teide Está raro eso que llevamos diciendo desde hace más de dos años desde el 2004¿ donde están esos movimientos?,...están reportados,Sí pero ¿donde está esa explicación? a esos Canarios, No os va a ser fácil tapar nuestra verdad...el Teide está raro Y negais lo evidente...Bueno lo hago yo ya que es una obligación, como ciudadano y que no me gustan las mentiras, Estos señores del IGN,llevan sin reportar sismos desde el día 25 hasta ahora ,que hasta el usgs les ha pedido explicaciónes es una VERGÜENZA...Saludos MIK3 Translated. As I see that we have to work, Lords of the ign canarias have produced many earthquakes very important movements in the case of a process that goes more on the rise the thing today s3 have produced movements in adeje of 2.3 and another in El Hierro Border, hac3 one week meeting the scientific committee pevolca, for what? To Drink Coffee with donuts, because there's nothing clear! But you didn't talk about vilaflor and the hundreds of movements as much sense as not by the population, you only talked about the 4.4 event that s3 produced at 6 in the morning between Tenerife and Gran Canaria but from vilaflor I guess you're busy Making videos dropping things like the teide is weird that we've been saying for more than two years since 2004 where are those movements?,... they are reported, yes but where is that explanation? To those canaries, it will not be easy to cover our truth... the teide is rare and deny the obvious... well i do it since it is an obligation, as a citizen and that I do not like lies, These IGN LORDS, have been without reporting earthquakes from day 25 so far, that even the usgs has asked for explanations is a shame... greetings mik3 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...=3&theater [url=https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=502893336905655&set=p.502893336905655&type=3][/url]
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02-02-2019, 08:40 AM
Another interesting comment .
Translated. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...=3&theater "I put you in (background)... Year 2017, 12 December area vilaflor, this water came out of the taps.. Judge yourselves, days before leaving also, cut the supply of water in that area, even distributed Water Bottles, according to them, was produced by a collapse in underground galleries and categorically affirming that it was not of volcanic origin, months later they claim that this water had gases of volcanic origin and if I say and add that that date is when it occurs since 2004 "on rest" as it happened this year, well now that they give explanations... greetings an actor, scientific scientific, who sees disaster movies, as they told me, so I saw too many times a town called Dante's Peake, remember that That movie is based on real facts, about the eruption of Mount Santa Helena and especially advised by the usgs.. Posdadata: that collapse, was due to movements close to that area with landslides that hit it on the subject of rain.. but as the truth always comes out, let's leave time in time... the truth always comes A movie question, as the film ends the Truman show " and in case we don't see each other, Good morning good afternoon good night, Every day that passes is one day less for an eruption, putting the average of an eruption in the teide is one every 100 years, to if maybe it is giving signs and maybe next 5 or 10 Next we could see one or before who knows, nature, does what wins."
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The reply by Enrique to someone who was questioning his credentials.
Translated. "1.- If you ask that the opinion of each person must be respected, I would like you to explain to me why the comments that do not like in other spaces by people of the ign and related (here if you are not missing the respect , ithaiza as you see is here. 2.- Here you only say what is, if you don't like it, go to another page, at no time has been disrespectful. 3.- the ign is responsible for volcanic surveillance in the canary islands and has no volcanic education on its website, much less out. Well, if he's not the culprit, he's the most responsible. 4.- everyone is wrong, that is clear, less according to the ign in sight of his words. This way if you don't mind getting burned with the lava under your feet when you get out, you can trust the ign and follow the ostrich technique denying everything and looking for another side. 5.- Finally, I have managed data networks, seismic, water and gas geochemical, deformation networks, sample sampling, analysis analysis, and even know how to manage a volcanic emergency, I have preparation for that. For your comments, I think you have no idea and it's just a simple pawn you've used as a kleenex. Talk to your bosses and ask them for explanations, you'll see that they can't give them, they don't arrive, they don't know what's going on or what the volcano is going to do, although everyone who 6.- the training of ign staff is clearly insufficient, especially if there is no desire to improve and learn, and in view of the lack of humility in your comments, you do not see that attitude. In fact it is clearly seen that they have an insufficient base and a geophysical has very little chemical base, knows very little of fluid physics and less yet of coladas and atmospheric behavior. It may sign up for signs and magnetic fields if, from the rest they are very in need of more "know how" or how to do things Is there any real volcanologist in that department of seismology (other than csic)?, I don't think so. 7.- in terms of management and communication is more than improved, you can already put the batteries, but they are going to roll brown and will cause many personal and material damage for a bad management of the matter for ignorance. Look only the section of historical eruptions to see it or the last of El Hierro where improvisation and bad decisions were continuous. Good luck they had and luck is over. 8.- say " free hate ".... you see " hate ".. I see laziness and laziness, in addition to malpractice and recklessness. After a lot trying to do things right and see that they don't listen to me and they laugh at all the canaries and visitors taking us for fools. The answer is to play in the same division and the best thing is to see how people laugh at those people who don't listen, so a meme of the network is the best (they're not mine, I found them on the net). When someone is the object of kidding is because you can't take it seriously, let's not say things clear or lie blatantly. 9.- I tried it for the good and all the channels since 2001, and all are doors and traps and tripping. I have been 17 years in this, I have already 7 groups of volcanoes created and I will still be another 20 years more at least if i allow life, I love volcanoes and I will continue to make the volcanic family grow up to What I ask. I just have to end up saying good night and thank you for your comments, let me know that I have 200 posts and I will pass from 1000 before two years,... relax and enjoy and if you don't like it, go somewhere He's free to do whatever he wants and me too. This is going to be better than the save deluxe, it's going to be prestige diamond. (Enrique). volcanes y ciencia hoy - volcanoes and science today. Elena González Elena González Grande Enrique olé olé ole, desde Canarias estamos contigo, bien dicho ? eres un crack y sobre todo un gran ser humano, a ver si aprende algo de ti, ya va siendo hora, zasss? ?? Great Enrique olé olé ole, from the canary islands we are with you, well said ? you are a crack and above all a great human being, to see if you learn anything from you, it's already time,
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A shallow 3.2 Earthquake only 1km depth North of La Palma.
es2019bghob 02/02/2019 12:12:08 12:12:08 29.4967 -17.8293 1 3.2 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS ![]() https://www.emsc-csem.org/#2
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