Coronavirus in numbers - Nations

[windermeregolfer]

I know this is not a nations stat but the story I am about tell highlights how the stats are not the full picture and could be being inflated.

Yesterday I got news of the passing, earlier in the morning, of one my fellow Past Captains at Windermere Golf Club, a great guy who had the golf club running through his veins, he will be sadly missed.

He had not been well for some years with heart and circulatory problems, on many occasion we didn't think we would see him again, occasionally being called Lazarus when he next turned up at the club.

Tuesday he was taken very ill at home with his health issues NOT Corona virus, the doctor was called and visited and immediately wanted him admitted to hospital, an ambulance was called.  The paramedics arrived, his condition having worsened indicated to the family that he was likely to die and that they may like to consider leaving him at home as if they took him to hospital they, the family, wouldn't be allowed to visit and be with him and when he dies in hospital it will more than likely go down as a COVID 19 death rather than heart failure.

The family decided to keep him at home.  He passed away the following morning about 8am, peacefully at home with his family around him of his heart and circulatory condition NOT C
Corona virus.

[milestone 11]

My condolences windermeregolfer.

[Jason W]

In the Uk, the ONS have just declared that 90% of those that died with Coronavirus mentioned had on average 2.7 serious underlying conditions. So a contributory factor but not necessarily the cause of death. Heart disease, respiratory conditions and dementia were highest. So take your point John, maybe overinflated. The true number will be calculated one day looking at total annual deaths after adjusting for additional deaths caused by the social and economic hardship inflicted on society trying to control coranavirus.

[milestone 11]

Sadly, the very high numbers for Spain, which I'd been dreading verification of, as reported by Worldometers this morning weren't too wide of the mark. The number reported to the WHO has risen a staggering 2047 above yesterday's figure of 3045 to 5092, putting us back in the 3% bracket. Italy remains in the 2% bracket and the UK thankfully is down a little at 5%. This thing is far from over yet.

As always, full spreadsheets can be found here

[Jason W]

The Uk publish hospital admissions daily after the govt briefings. These are falling, in some regions quite quickly. These are a better measure rather than verified cases, verified cases as reported mean little as we now all understand, they are just headlines used by the media.

[milestone 11]

There seems to be confusion in Spain this morning as to what is the correct figure for today. Various numbers have been reported suggesting anything between 4000 and 5000. This is looking likely to be lower than yesterday's figure but higher than those reported earlier in the week. I'm at a loss understanding where these daily increases are coming from. With the majority of the country in lockdown, are those newly infected, intrafamilial?

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Sorry for the late addition. My friend hadn't updated when I went to bed last night.
Spain's figures for the 17th are up 91 from yesterday, 5183 from 5092, keeping us in the 3% bracket. Italy still at 2% and the UK maintains a 5% increase.

I have to wonder why the UK, Belgium, and France are showing such frighteningly high mortality figures per those infected, some 14%. I can only imagine that infection is considerably more widespread than has been ascertained.

[Spitfire58]

With the lack of testing in most of these countries (apart from Germany) I think it would not be in the slightest surprised to see the “real” infection rate multiple times higher than the published figures. I also think it has been out in the population for longer than has been acknowledged.

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With the lack of testing in most of these countries (apart from Germany) I think it would not be in the slightest surprised to see the “real” infection rate multiple times higher than the published figures. I also think it has been out in the population for longer than has been acknowledged.

I entirely agree Spitfire.

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My apologies for not having updated this last night, I was Zooming. (See thread)
Spain's reported daily figure to the WHO for the 18th, up 69 to 5252 from 5183 leaving us firmly entrenched in the 3% bracket.