Coronavirus in Fuerteventura - Discussion

[Spitfire58]

I' m being completely honest and quantified my reasoning up thread.

Soooo, you would let your child in Madrid?

Also, just read about young people usually not having any symptoms at all - not sure if I would blame them or any officials for not spotting the virus.

Yes!
Right, cards on table time.
I'm not prepared to argue hypotheses. I have been here 24 hours, and have no wish to upset others that have been here for any time, neither have I any intention to upset the moderating team and/or the site's owners. I'm the new kid on the block and don't know the debate norms in here.
I have a view, others, may or may not share that view. We are each and all entitled to the views that we hold.
It is my opinion that the action of the students is/was indefensible. On that, I shall bow out of the discussion.

Hi Milestone,
I have to disagree. If it was one of my family I would want them back home, under full isolation during travel & isolation on arrival, just saying that as my personal opinion.

However I fully understand your rationale, your reason for voicing your opinion & your right to do so. Keep posting 😁😁

[Archer]

Everytime another arrives from Madrid carrying the virus and walking the supermarkets, we all have to re-start our 14 day isolation!

Stop the flights now, or quarantine every single one who comes in. Otherwise the sacrifice we have all made is totally pointless.

[MLA]

Playa de Corralejo Viejo

15-03-20
   

16-03-20 Not sure if the people were Policia Local or not?
           

[milestone 11]

Everytime another arrives from Madrid carrying the virus and walking the supermarkets, we all have to re-start our 14 day isolation!

Stop the flights now, or quarantine every single one who comes in. Otherwise the sacrifice we have all made is totally pointless.

I thought that I was on my own with that philosophy Archer.

[Will]

Everytime another arrives from Madrid carrying the virus and walking the supermarkets, we all have to re-start our 14 day isolation!

The idea isn't to stop anyone getting the virus. The idea is to slow things down. Eventually everybody will be exposed and most will get it. 

Odds are there are already people on the islands infected but without any symptoms.

[milestone 11]

Is that you Boris????

[milestone 11]

Everytime another arrives from Madrid carrying the virus and walking the supermarkets, we all have to re-start our 14 day isolation!

The idea isn't to stop anyone getting the virus. The idea is to slow things down. Eventually everybody will be exposed and most will get it. 

Odds are there are already people on the islands infected but without any symptoms.

Utter nonsense! We are under lockdown for containment of the virus. Were the idea herd immunity it would be life as normal. Keeping the airports open though, does tend to support your argument.

[Ducks]

Everytime another arrives from Madrid carrying the virus and walking the supermarkets, we all have to re-start our 14 day isolation!

Stop the flights now, or quarantine every single one who comes in. Otherwise the sacrifice we have all made is totally pointless.

I thought that I was on my own with that philosophy Archer.

You're really not alone there, but the onus has to be on the authorities rather than the individual to inform, facilitate, and enforce. 

Individual people cannot be expected to make sacrifices when they are not compensated for doing so (ie, flights cancelled based on DFA advice meaning insurance cover is valid vs choosing to not go and eating the loss as an individual, accommodation being provided vs having to find and fund your own), or are even encouraged to do so. Allowing flights from heavily infected areas is bad, but would be understandable if people coming off them were forced into quarantine. There are so many hotels on this island, none of which are full in early March. 

The government here could easily have commandeered a self-catering facility near the airport, moved the existing guests elsewhere, then set up quarantine and bussed in supplies. They didn't. The airline and tour companies could have warned people who travelled before this weekend that they were likely to experience servere disruption. They didn't. The government at home could have forced companies to refund holiday bookings and cancelled flights. They didn't. They government here could have sent out mass alerts by SMS. They didn't.

The neighbour just said they were on a beach in the middle of nowhere yesterday when the Police fetched up and told them to get back in their hire car and go home! This was the first they had heard of any of this because they weren't on the internet to follow the situation and no effort had been made to inform them.

People should of course behave responsibly and try not to infect others— We've been practising social distancing and maximum hygiene for the last month. However, individuals can only do so much. the authorities are so afraid of causing a panic (perhaps rightly, I don't know) that they have downplayed the severity of this, were slow to implement measures to force distance, and have not implemented half the measures they should have. There are two or three flights from mainland Spain coming in today with people who won't be quarantined, and that's crazy. I absolutely support everyone's right to repatriate, but quarantine measures should absolutely be enforced. 

However, Ireland is telling people to get home from Spain by 19th, so I'm guessing either they or the Spanish are going to close the borders after that date. It'll be of benefit to whichever one does it, anyway.

[Will]

No you're not.

80% of the people getting the virus have mild to no symptoms. Reality is you may already have it and not know it. 

The lockdown is to stop the 20% who get REALLY sick from all getting sick at the same time. The hospital couldn't handle even a small spike. 

Curve flattening is about slowing things down NOT stopping things.  It's way too late to stop things.

[fatherted]

Iv have just had a look at Fue airport arrivals board and between 11.25 today until late tonight there's 12 flights heading to various German cities but only 3 to the UK. I don't know if the German government has put pressure on the airlines to repatriate it's citizens but having so many flights in such a short period of time makes me wonder.